Friday, June 10, 2005

Secularism or Atheism

There are only two choices we can make about this nations core identity and beliefs.

Either we get our "Rights" from a creator, ("that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights"), or we are just some random event that has little significance, and there are no "unalienable" rights.

Either we are a nation that recognizes that there is a God or we say that there is no God. It's like being pregnant; there is no middle ground. Either we are a "Theist" nation or an "Atheist" nation.

Even Agnostics fall on the side of the Atheists. When you ask them do you believe in God, "yes" or "no", they say, "Well I can't say "yes."

Making this one choice does not mean that this nation is "making laws that "establish" or "promote" a single religion, because we all know that there are thousands of religions that believe in God.

None of us want a National Religion that only recognizes one religion. Either we recognize thousands of religions that recognize many different versions of God or we recognize a "single" religion that recognizes "no God".

But choose we must, because there are those that want to change us to a single Atheist religion instead of allowing us to continue to have a foundation of many different religions.

They attack religion under the guise of being secular.

Secular does not mean "anti-religious", it means, "not relating to a religion or a religious body." - American Heritage Dictionary

Atheism is a belief, a belief that there is no God, which makes it a religion. From the American Heritage Dictionary.."The doctrine that there is no God or gods." A doctrine is a religious dogma.

Again we can be secular and still acknowledge God, (however we choose to worship), as long as we do not promote a single religion.

The Founding Fathers wanted a Secular (not relating to a particular religion) government, but at the same time recognizing religion in general.

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great Pillars…” - George Washington


At 1:20 PM, Blogger Tyler Simons said...

Secularists have a doctrine, too, right? Religion is best kept private and individual? Is that off base?

This is more my girlfriend's department. I think you'd call her a secularist, but she calls herself a humanist. I'll send her your way.

At 5:52 PM, Blogger Free Agency Rules said...

Humasnism is an implied ethical doctrine that says "people are the ultimate determiner of values and ethics."

None-the-less a doctrine is a belief system, which is by definition a Religion.

But if that is the case then they must admit that they are here on earth merely by some random chance. (Evolution is not by design.) And therefore if that is the case we have little significance and then who are we to make any judgements since we have no significance.

Murder, stealing, etc, they don't matter because there is no final retribution.

>Religion is best kept private and individual.

If you had just found a place where you could drink of the fountian of youth, should you keep it private?

I think it is best to only discuss it if the other person is making the request, otherwise it is being pushy, and nobody wants to be forced into anything. :)

At 5:56 PM, Blogger Free Agency Rules said...

P.S., if she is a "humanist" then she is also an Atheist by definition.


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